Hello all,
First post here. I am a complete newbie to multi-boxing/multi-instancing. I subscribed to InnerSpace a couple of days ago. After spending a considerable amount of time configuring it for my LOTRO (2 accounts on 1 PC), I finally got it working the way i want it, almost.
If I launch my 2 LOTRO games outside of the InnerSpace, the game sound comes only from the active window. Using InnerSpace, sound is coming from both windows, so I have to manually mute one or the other. Is there a way to limit sound only from the active window when I swap back and forth between the 2?
Also, I have configured Window Layout to have my Slave regions under the Main region. I like to game with a full main window without PIP most of the time, but would like to have PIP occasionally. How do I set up a hot key to toggle the Slave regions to top/bottom in game?
BTW, just want to say that I am very impressed with InnerSpace/IsBoxer. It was quite daunting to just read the guides. Before subscribing to it, I wasn't sure if I was able to set it up correctly, especially when info on LOTRO is so limited. Once I spent some time on the setup interface, it all seem so logical. Well done, LavishSoft!
LOTRO: How to limit sound from the active window only?
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Yes, I understand that InnerSpace does not deal with the game sound. The game sound itself is actually fine. The problem is that there are too many game sounds.
For LOTRO to work correctly, InnerSpace has to make all game windows believe it is the foreground window so they all accept inputs. I selected that option in setup as instructed by the guide. I figure the side effect would be that all game windows believe they have focus and now they are all playing the game sound?
There must be a workaround for this. Any current LOTRO users has this problem with a fix?
For LOTRO to work correctly, InnerSpace has to make all game windows believe it is the foreground window so they all accept inputs. I selected that option in setup as instructed by the guide. I figure the side effect would be that all game windows believe they have focus and now they are all playing the game sound?
There must be a workaround for this. Any current LOTRO users has this problem with a fix?
Unfortunately, locking the foreground window means that sound is going to come from all of them, because the sound is usually limited to the foreground window. So the answer to your question is to get the LOTRO developers to change the design of their client so you don't need to use the optionIf I launch my 2 LOTRO games outside of the InnerSpace, the game sound comes only from the active window. Using InnerSpace, sound is coming from both windows, so I have to manually mute one or the other. Is there a way to limit sound only from the active window when I swap back and forth between the 2?

I may be able to do something about that at some point, but it may not be a priority until the new application that's coming in the next couple months.
There's no quick way to handle this at the moment. I will look into that, but again no promises as to the time line. I am trying to restrict the number of new features that go in so that I can concentrate on bugs as they pop up, and develop for the new software.Also, I have configured Window Layout to have my Slave regions under the Main region. I like to game with a full main window without PIP most of the time, but would like to have PIP occasionally. How do I set up a hot key to toggle the Slave regions to top/bottom in game?
There are a couple of ways to handle this:
1) I have a separate installation of LOTRO with all of the client_*.dat files symbolically linked to the normal install directory. In the 2nd install I have placed a copy of the keymap and the userpreferences.ini files. LOTRO will look to the game directory FIRST and then to your Users directory second for these files. I then have a separate profile in Innerspace that I use for all but the primary character on that system. That profile points to the second install directory of LOTRO. This also allows me to have different graphic settings for the non-primary window (lower quality) as well.
2) You can use Innerspace's virtual file system to accomplish the same situation, I'd imagine. I looked into it, but didn't see enough documentation for me to set it up without more effort than I was willing to spend at the time (I already had the multiple profile solution in place). Lax might be able to provide some walkthrough details on setting that up.
1) I have a separate installation of LOTRO with all of the client_*.dat files symbolically linked to the normal install directory. In the 2nd install I have placed a copy of the keymap and the userpreferences.ini files. LOTRO will look to the game directory FIRST and then to your Users directory second for these files. I then have a separate profile in Innerspace that I use for all but the primary character on that system. That profile points to the second install directory of LOTRO. This also allows me to have different graphic settings for the non-primary window (lower quality) as well.
2) You can use Innerspace's virtual file system to accomplish the same situation, I'd imagine. I looked into it, but didn't see enough documentation for me to set it up without more effort than I was willing to spend at the time (I already had the multiple profile solution in place). Lax might be able to provide some walkthrough details on setting that up.
Oh, and one other note: Obviously this only works well if you're okay with having sound coming from only one of the windows all of the time. If you're like me, then your characters are in close vicinity always, so you should be able to get away with it unless you're relying on things like the sound prompts for skill openings, etc. for your other characters. You might still figure some of the sound settings to be able to get that done, but the solution I posted above works well enough for me that I haven't gone to any greater tweaks than to just have the "Mute Game Sounds" box clicked on the secondary instances of LOTRO.
Thanks for the info and advice. I will look forward to the software changes and additions in the future.
Currently, I still prefer to have only 1 installation of LOTRO, so I don't have to deal with multiple game updates from Turbine. I did try InnerSpace's virtual files feature today and created a secondary userpreferences.ini file. I manually edited that file to have sound off and lower some of the graphics settings. It worked very well. In fact, you don't even have to edit the secondary file directly, all in-game settings changes I made on the 2nd instance are written to the secondary initialization file only. Nice:)
I will try having sound on for both instances when I am playing the chars together. I suspect I may get a delayed/echo sound from the 2nd instance since the instruction has to be sent from the 1st instance to the Turbine server and then back to the 2nd instance, but we'll see.
Currently, I still prefer to have only 1 installation of LOTRO, so I don't have to deal with multiple game updates from Turbine. I did try InnerSpace's virtual files feature today and created a secondary userpreferences.ini file. I manually edited that file to have sound off and lower some of the graphics settings. It worked very well. In fact, you don't even have to edit the secondary file directly, all in-game settings changes I made on the 2nd instance are written to the secondary initialization file only. Nice:)
I will try having sound on for both instances when I am playing the chars together. I suspect I may get a delayed/echo sound from the 2nd instance since the instruction has to be sent from the 1st instance to the Turbine server and then back to the 2nd instance, but we'll see.
Honestly, with the files sym-linked, I only have to download a few files twice whenever an update comes in. But in general, using the virtual files option is the way to go. I just haven't gotten around to doing it.chuvakuhn wrote:Currently, I still prefer to have only 1 installation of LOTRO, so I don't have to deal with multiple game updates from Turbine.