WinEQ2 + logitech G15 repeating macros

[Justawinequser]

The Logitech G15 is a popular gaming keyboard that has a few features, chief among them being macros that can be programmed to act as keystroke combinations.

It's a bit sloppy, but one of the things I do with it is set up the keyboard to click a tradeskill combine repeatedly while I am not sitting there doing it myself. It might sound silly, but when you have to make 500 swatches, it is great!

Due to some idiosryncracies with how the G15 handles mouseclicks via the keyboard right now, the only way I've found to be able to do it is to two have two repeating macros run. One of them does left click, and the other activates a hotbar macro that of course does /autoinv. This is because whenever I try to use a mouseclick + anything else in a G15 hotkey, it doesn't work.


Have I lost you yet? I bet 90% of you are thinking "go to a G15 support forum".

Outside of wineq2, that system works just fine. I just recently started using WinEQ2 again, and when I went to do some more combines, I noticed it wasn't working very well. I also noticed my CPU usage which is normally at about 35-40% in the zone I do my tradeskilling in, spiked to 100%. The macro did function, but instead of working every time the combine button refreshed, it lagged behind and it would only make about 2 ocmbines per minute.

The reason why I am posting this here, is to find out if there is some setting in WINEQ2 that is having a side effect with what the hotkeys are doing. Since you can't program a delay with a mouseclick hotkey with the G15 in EQ currently, it literally gets spammed very fast. That is probably why WinEQ2 freaks out, and CPU usage spikes the second you turn it on, and turns off after all the clicks in the systems queue get done.

The problem is definately related to the mouseclick. If I turn the mouseclick off and enable only the /autoinv hotkey, it works as normal.

With the popularity of the keyboard amongst EQer's lately, I figured maybe someone has ran across this and can let me know if it's fixable or not.

Thanks!

[Lax]

Well, I cant imagine why the CPU usage would spike as such, but you could try disabling EQPlayNice while running your macro.

Or, since you're automating things already, why not use MacroQuest 2 instead. Trust me, it's not any more cheating than what you're doing now, if that's the worry.

Anyway, our Inner Space product actually supports the G15 keys, and has a system built in for emulating mouse clicks and keyboard typing and whatnot (including delays...), so you could technically use that instead of two repeating macros with the G15's profiler. And it would be essentially the same as what you're doing now, just better -- you could switch applications while it's going and such.

[Justawinequser]

Interesting about the inner space thing, but it's probably not for me.

But it's rather amusing comparing G15 macros to macroquest. They are similar in no way shape or form. Just because macroquest can do something that the G15 hotkeys can do, doesn't mean G15 is the same thing.

A person can't warp across the zone, travel across the world without interaction, see every npc and pc on the map, just from purchasing a G15.

Most importantly, G15 doesn't violat the EULA, macroquest does. :p

[Justawinequser]

On a related note, there actually is an updated version of the G15 software compared to what I was using, that solved both of my problems. (the cpu usage as well as the hotkey delay when mouseclicking) Hitting check for software updates in the application said I was current, but on the logitech website there has been a new version with those fixes for a while.

Just figured I would mention it. Personally I'm glad it's working.

[Lax]

But it's rather amusing comparing G15 macros to macroquest. They are similar in no way shape or form. Just because macroquest can do something that the G15 hotkeys can do, doesn't mean G15 is the same thing.

You have the wrong idea about what you're doing then, because you're doing the same thing that MacroQuest was originally built to do (note: I didn't say "it's the same thing", I said it's no more cheating than you are doing now. People have been banned for using G15 macros in WoW that do nothing more than you're doing). To my knowledge, most of the original macros were created to do tradeskills, and they did it by emulating keys and mouse clicks with delays, just like you are doing now. And on the same argument you're using about just because something CAN do something... well, just because MQ2 comes with a plugin that lets you see everything on the map, doesnt mean you have to use it.

A person can't warp across the zone, travel across the world without interaction, see every npc and pc on the map, just from purchasing a G15.

Warp isn't macroquest, that's a common misconception. If someone is warping, theyre doing it with a plugin, which you would not find anywhere on the macroquest site. You could absolutely travel across the world with a G15 macro as well.

I'm not going to argue that you should use MacroQuest, but your arguments are misguided (other than the EULA one, which is perfectly acceptable). Take it from me, I wrote MQ2 and all my SOE accounts are active and in good standing. I just never used it to warp, or automate travel across the world, or anything of the like, simply because those things arent for me.

Glad to hear the G15 software update fixed things for you.

[Justawinequser]

I'm sure that at least on some small part of your reply you are meaning to defend MQ2. I would be as well if I wrote an application. If I gave off the impression of insinuating negative things about MQ2 I did not mean to. This might surprise you, but I have in fact used MQ2 before. While I have the obvious and common perception that macroquest equates to using cheating plugins, and you having the obvious stance that macroquest plugins are not part of the program itself so it is a bit unfair to call macroquest cheating there are a couple of things that simply have to be said about it.

I'd make any bet that the vast majority of macroquest users choose to use it SPECIFICALLY for the plugins, even the passive ones such as the map. As more time goes on doing things such as warping, zone travel, and scripts that do missions for days at a time are used less and less (because Sony obviously has been seeking to eliminate this practice) does not remove the fact that macroquest is the application they are doing it with.

For those reasons and several others, I am quite certain that a very large potion of macroquest 2 users like the program for 2 specific reasons: The map, and it makes botting much easier. Personally, I would like to see in game tracking behave in similar ways to how Macroquest 2 does.

The in game map in EQ is effectively useless compared to other games, and if the mob is in range of a ranger to track it, I would like to see Sony implement it so that mob could show up on a ranger/bard/druids in game map. I don't play a tracking class by the way.


One thing that is also clear is that my motivation for posting on the forum might be in question, it's a very fair question to have. Since reinstalling WinEQ2 after not using it for a while I have run into two quirks. Obviously this thread was one of them, and I'm still looking into the other one. I havn't given up on it yet though. If I can get that second quirk resolved I'm going to be re-subscribing. I'm afraid the second quirk is specific to my system, so I have to see if I can fix it before subscribing.

Cheers.

[Lax]

does not remove the fact that macroquest is the application they are doing it with.

You're kind of missing the boat there. Saying that someone uses MacroQuest 2 to warp because someone wrote a program for MacroQuest 2 that lets them warp in EQ is like saying that someone uses Windows to warp because someone wrote a program for Windows that lets them warp in EQ... when reality, it's the program someone wrote, not MQ2 or Windows, that is letting them warp. As I said, you will not find products to warp on the MacroQuest website, and it is clearly unfair to insinuate that it is a feature of MacroQuest, much the same as it is unfair to insinuate that cheating in WoW is a feature of Inner Space, just because there are programs written by third parties distributed for doing so, that use the Inner Space platform.

[Justawinequser]

I really don't care.

For several reasons. Chief among them being that the program itself violates the EULA. As you have said, the map feature that is included with macroquest, is also a clear violation of the EULA, not to mention game breaking for certain aspects of the game. Enchanters should not be able to tell if a named mob is up.

Or, since you're automating things already, why not use MacroQuest 2 instead.

I'm not going to argue that you should use MacroQuest,

Personally, I'm getting annoyed. I asked a question about wineq2, and our little discussion has turned into a debate on whether macroquest is a legitimate way to play EQ or not.

Everyone knows it is not.

[Lax]

our little discussion has turned into a debate on whether macroquest is a legitimate way to play EQ or not.

No it hasnt... you're insisting that macroquest is what people warp with, when it isnt, which has nothing to do with whether macroquest is legitimate or violates the EULA. My second post on this thread agrees that if you don't want to violate the EULA, then clearly, MQ2 is not for you. That's not in question at all, I'm just explaining to you why warping has nothing to do with it.