IS causing suspensions / bans

bob_the_builder · Post by **bob_the_builder** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:43 pm

Careful if you use IS folks.

Lax wrote this on ismods

I fully believe this suspension was due to detection of Inner Space's stealth system in build 3982

http://www.ismods.com/forums/viewtopic ... e8e6251ac3

Bob

Post by **Lax** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:47 pm

Use build 3983 or later.

bob_the_builder · Post by **bob_the_builder** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:54 pm

Lax you wrote this:

If you use IS for legitimate purposes, you will be able to play without the stealth system enabled

How do I play without ISXwarden?

Also, is there a way to have an IS without ISXwarden embedded so this problem NEVER occurrs again.

Bob

Post by **Lax** » Tue May 16, 2006 7:59 pm

How do I play without ISXwarden?

Also, is there a way to have an IS without ISXwarden embedded so this problem NEVER occurrs again.

ISXWarden is downloaded and activated separately from IS. ISXWarden is not embedded.

There is a general Windows stealth routine in Inner Space, which happens to cover a portion of what Warden uses. They were able to detect its existence, but would not have a real positive indication that it was in fact Inner Space.

As I mentioned in the post that you copied a sentence from, I am currently developing a change to Inner Space that will have the stealth system disabled by default. It would need to be enabled if desired. This will be available later today. I share your sentiment on this issue.

toptek · Post by **toptek** » Tue May 16, 2006 8:36 pm

NOw this is lame All the accounts in my house just got a supsion and I dont no why, i am following there rules to the T ,,,

I cant afford a lawer to look into there actions i am not breaking any rules now ... WHATS UP WITH THEM DUMB ASS ANYWAY ...

If we are aloud to box how do we do it without any third party software i have tried it with just WOW runin on two clicks etc ... it is like playing EQ 1 without EQWindows or WinEQ ...

I really dont no how to fight them any more they say we can box then i go boxx i get kicked .. I was doing nothing wrong this time at all ...

I have nothing to hide and not rich enough to fight them in court or i would ...

If I go to my CC company i can't get there help becuase the EULa says we can only have one acount and will go no father ,,, then I ask them up fornt can I box yes you can as long you follow all the rules which i DO ...

I am lost now if we are allowed to box , then how do i do it on one more PC legally without using any third party software .. I lose any way you look at it ...

Post by **Lax** » Tue May 16, 2006 9:32 pm

Toptek, they banned for detection of the stealth system Inner Space employs.

WinEQ 2 does not employ a stealth system, and was not subjected to any of the above (no disconnects earlier, no bans). As of builds 3986 and later of Inner Space, the built-in stealth system is optional and disabled by default.

Their check for a stealth system can be seen as something like a breathalyzer test. If you refuse to take the test, this gives them reason to believe you were drinking. If you agree to take the test, this builds confidence that you were not drinking. Same thing here. If you do not have the stealth system enabled, it can be seen as having nothing to hide, whereas having it enabled can be an indication that you do.

toptek · Post by **toptek** » Tue May 16, 2006 10:45 pm

I had no idea that was even in there to be very honest one of those accounts was band not suped . I wanted to just let the other five accounts go and just play wow with Innerspace mostly over WinEQ . because of how well it handles wow ..

Owell i gues i eat this after I get out of my system and i have nothing to hide never did ....

I will now my disablity that i get SS for my main and it is documented and this one i hate telling anoyone any were becuase of the back lash i get any were

I do in fact have a well documented mental problem not by my chance i fought DR for years till i gave in .

WoW noes i do i told them in a email i did ...

I have lost jobbs because of it but , my last jobb i did not lose because of my MP i lost it because i feel down outside my house and broke my foot i was a manager at that Jobb and doing well ... till i broke my foot ...

with being broken etcc i cant work again it hurts some days other days
i cant walk ... one day i may lose it . have been told so and i also have arthuis in my hands to the point some days i cant even type. much less pick anything up ..

and in my state they don't need just cause to fire me they can fire me for any reason unless i can prove they fired me for a unlawfull reason and i need a lawyer for that. ..

but i do get long term disablty from that Jobb so it hleps some ... and pally will till i am 65

I will restate like i have so many times I am not telling anyone this as a tools to use for attention nor are my intention as such to use anyone in any way with my problems..

if i did not have these problems who noes.. I cant say because i was dealt this in life and live with it ...

How ever i see blizz at this moment is totly of base with me, if they would just ask and not just do what they want, they would find out how nice a peson i really am ...

and that my intention's are not and never have been what they stated and only use Innerspace and used , but have not used ISXWOW sesne my warrior got kicked ...

At this point i have to get this out of system and look for somethnig else to play that will hold my attendtion as wow and EQ 1 did ...

I am not lieing when i say i have never run any chaets as wow stated and in EQ 1 i played it for 5 to 6 years all most 6 bxing from day one .

and never once was warned for anything and even had some GM help me ...

Later have fun I know i will t try to in coming days ....

Toptek

bob_the_builder · Post by **bob_the_builder** » Wed May 17, 2006 11:50 am

As of builds 3986 and later of Inner Space, the built-in stealth system is optional and disabled by default.

I hate pleading ignorance . thanks much for adding this into IS, its truely a shame it was ever there in the first place. My last WoW account banned and my sons suspended because (here is my ignorance) I truly believed that IS was an acceptable application to run with WoW.

My subscription for IS runs out in Aug and I had several friends that paid for subscriptions also. The thing is that they will blame me if they got suspended since I purchased the IS accounts for them and installed there IS for them, they believe its my resposnsiblity to support them. Im just rambling now, I am not sure my point except unfortunetly Lax I will not be renewing my IS subscrption this year nor will I be renewing my freinds (I have not heard from them so I do not know if they were caught using IS stealth crash whatever)

It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. ~William G. McAdoo

Bob_waves_adios

toptek · Post by **toptek** » Wed May 17, 2006 3:26 pm

I won't be renewing in NOV ether. but will watch things on the forums to see how it goess and unless things change in WOW won't use IS anymore including in EQ 1 i have started a few of my old eq1 acconts back up i will play it as long as it holds my interest..I will use WinEQ in EQ 1 have sense it came out ..

till Nov .

If i play Eq 1 that long

Sorry to give something that could do a lot more good then bad...

eolewis · Post by **eolewis** » Thu May 18, 2006 12:24 pm

Tis a shame about the stealth setting in IS because it got my WoW account banned from it less then 2 weeks after a 3 day suspention for automating when isxwarden showed green and I never fished when surrounded by people. once I was suspended, I no longer used warden or isxwow, just IS. IS now deleted and if WoW ever gets unbanned ( I doubt it) ill just load it normally. still use Wineq2 to 2-box EQ1 since I like the winowing ways alot better.

Post by **Lax** » Thu May 18, 2006 12:40 pm

I agree, it is a shame.

toptek · Post by **toptek** » Sun May 21, 2006 6:17 am

No lose to me , iwent back to Eq 1 got the TT key done the same nite meet a few people I knew form past times , Eq1 isn't to bad i really don't want to go back to WoW now Iwon't mess much with the New explaiton coming out..

they band my accounts after i My Mom sent them a email stating how lame they were ,, not one day later were all my accounts band ,, well it is a very good game but not worth all this , It is only a game after all not the GOV..

Can't wiat for Warhammer or vangraud to come out , hope they dont have a control problem like WoW , what gets me out of all this is they think they are unstopable Now..

owell Eq 1 is still loads of fun.. and i get respect for other player's there ...

Is Innerspace safe to use in EQ 1 or should I use WinEQ ....for boxing only ? ...

If I get no other comment at least let in wihch would the wiser in Eq1 ..

Later

Post by **Lax** » Sun May 21, 2006 8:39 am

Whichever you prefer. There's no reason to use WinEQ if you like IS better. Nobody has been banned from EQ1 just for using either.

toptek · Post by **toptek** » Sun May 21, 2006 1:47 pm

Id rather use InnerSpace, more freedom..

Thanks..

bob_the_builder · Post by **bob_the_builder** » Mon May 22, 2006 9:25 am

Seems they still will not renew my 3 accounts that were recently banned for using IS.

Greetings,

Thank you for contacting us regarding this account issue. After a review of account
XXXXXXX, we regret to inform you that we have come to the same conclusion as was previously reached. Unfortunately as a result, the account will no longer be accessible in any way and will not be reopened under any circumstances. Please note that these actions are taken to maintain integrity within the World of Warcraft, and are not taken lightly.

This action has been taken in accordance to our Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html) and our game policies (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01712p), which all players acknowledge and agree to prior to participation. When an account violates these policies, the situation is reviewed and appropriate action is taken.

Thank you for your time and understanding of our position in this matter. Please feel free to contact us with any questions or concerns you may have.

Regards,

Dupaul
Account Administration
Blizzard Entertainment
www.worldofwarcraft.com

I guess it is their loss really. They have successfully forced me away from using their product.

Bob

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IS causing suspensions / bans

IS causing suspensions / bans

I dont a thing but IS now

lol

Sorry

THey band all mine

Thanks