Second session always crashes

undies · Post by **undies** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 9:06 pm

The only way I can prevent the second session from crashing is to use the default profile. Even if I make a second profile identical to the first it still crashes as soon as the first EQ screen appears. I am just using the default settings. (the second instance crashes... the first stays OK).

What more information do you need than this?
(Athlon 1800, 512MB ram, Geforce Ti4200, Windows XP)

I am an EQWindows user generally... I have a complete second hard drive (on different IDE cables) installed with a nosound.txt file on the second installation... EQWindows has recently been randomly rebooting my machine during gameplay which is not so pleasant. WINEQ crashes whether I use the second EQ installation or the first (ie. using any second profile crashes it).

I like the features of WinEQ and will probably eventually buy it if I can get it to work (especially while EQW keeps crashing during play). I just have an observation about the game switching between the two. I have EQW set to toggle instances on SHIFT+CTRL and this is very fast. I cannot seem to get WINEQ toggling on SHIFT+CTRL.... I have to revert to alt-tab (which is slower for me to get my fingers to physically) or use the session cycling... (also slower physically). "Next WINEQ Session" and "Previous WINEQ Session" hotkeys dont seem to wraparound, which I presume is intentional. So is there any way for me to set up SHIFT+CTRL as toggle keys with just 2 sessions?

A final point... I certainly do not begrudge you the new format of free vs paid WINEQ. I'd just make the suggestion you try and keep all the help forums and info free to access... for example, if my questions here were already answered in the private sections, it would not do me much good and would not motivate me to pay for it if I could never get it to work properly. Kind of Catch 22.

Anyway, GL with the new format and hope it works for you.

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:32 pm

same thing, i also get the -15 error all the time!

Post by **Lax** » Sat Jul 17, 2004 2:37 pm

Hello. -15 error is worked around by re-trying. I will be updating both WinEQ and EQPlayNice to help solve that problem later today. It will re-try on its own several times before erroring out.

Athlon 1800/GF 4 ti4200/512mb sounds almost exactly like one of my test machines, and I generally have no problems. WinEQ should be okay using any profile, but I will look into any potential problems. You can help us find the problem by a) opening WinEQ.log after a crash and pasting the last 10-15 lines of it, and b) opening DBG.TXT in your everquest directory (not debug.txt) and finding the last instance of "Fatal error in main thread". If you find that line, paste me that line and the next 10-15 lines and I should be able to use that data. If not, then the last 5-10 lines of DBG.TXT

Thank you for your patience, WinEQ is under constant development and I hope to have all of these issues cleared up very soon

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:38 pm

WEQ_Direct3DCreate8()
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterDisplayMode()
Desktop resolution 1280x1024x32
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat()
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat()
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat()
IDirect3D8Proxy::CreateDevice()
AutoDepthStencilFormat: 77
BackBufferCount: 1
BackBufferFormat: 22
BackBufferHeight: 864
BackBufferWidth: 1152
EnableAutoDepthStencil: 1
Flags: 1
FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
hDeviceWindow: 0
MultiSampleType: 0
PresentationInterval: 0
SwapEffect: 1
Windowed: 1
Initializing resolution to 1152x864
D3DDEVTYPE_HAL
D3DCREATE_MIXED_VERTEXPROCESSING
D3DCREATE_MULTITHREADED
IDirect3DDevice8Proxy::SetGammaRamp()
IDirect3DDevice8Proxy::SetGammaRamp()
WEQ_DirectInput8Create(1BC0000,800,0€y¿:H¢Mª™]dí6—,28A92A0,0)
IID_IDirectInput8A
WEQ_IDirectInput8A::CreateDevice(a+o ÕÏ¿ÇDEST)
Single-char Keyboard
WEQ_IDirectInput8A::CreateDevice(`+o ÕÏ¿ÇDEST)
Single-char Mouse
AutoDepthStencilFormat: 0
BackBufferCount: 0
BackBufferFormat: 22
BackBufferHeight: 0
BackBufferWidth: 0
EnableAutoDepthStencil: 0
Flags: 0
FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
hDeviceWindow: 0
MultiSampleType: 0
PresentationInterval: 0
SwapEffect: 1
Windowed: 1
EQ Display Mode 1280x1024
IDirect3D8Proxy::Release()

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:42 pm

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00000:Starting EverQuest.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00001:Init point a.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00002:Init point b.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00003:Init point c.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00004:Init point d.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00005:Init point d1.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00006:Init point d2.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00007:Init point e.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00008:Init point f.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00009:Init point g.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00010:Init point h.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00000:Found adapter #0 - RADEON 9800 XT (6.14.10.6451)

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00001:Adapter #0 - RADEON 9800 XT :

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00002:32Bit = 1, D32 = 0, D24 = 1, D16 = 1

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00003:16Bit(565) = 1, D32 = 0, D24 = 1, D16 = 1

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00004:16Bit(1555) = 0, D32 = 0, D24 = 0, D16 = 0

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00011:Init point i.

[Sun Jul 18 15:47:42 2004]00012:Init point j.

That was after trying to initilize the second profile, which is nothing but an exact copy of the default profile

Post by **Lax** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:45 pm

Hi there. WinEQ v1.00 was released to solve this and other issues. Please give it a shot and let me know if you have any problems

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:54 pm

Installing EQPN Single Instance (C:\Program Files\EQPlayNice\EQPlayNice.DLL)
Success
WEQ_Direct3DCreate9(31) successful
IDirect3D9Proxy::GetAdapterDisplayMode()
AdapterDisplayMode 1280x1024, D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
IDirect3D9Proxy::GetAdapterCount()=1
IDirect3D9Proxy::GetAdapterIdentifier()
IDirect3D9Proxy::GetDeviceCaps()
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,0)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,1)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D32)... Format not available
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D24X8)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D16)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,0)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,1)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D32)... Format not available
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D24X8)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D16)... Format OK
IDirect3D9Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X1R5G5B5,D3DFMT_X1R5G5B5,0)... Format not available
WEQ_Direct3DCreate8(220) successful
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterDisplayMode()
AdapterDisplayMode 1280x1024, D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterCount()=1
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterIdentifier()
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetDeviceCaps()
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterModeCount()
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,0)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,1)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D32)... Format not available
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D24X8)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D16)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,0)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,1)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D32)... Format not available
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D24X8)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_R5G6B5,2,D3DRTYPE_SURFACE,D3DFMT_D16)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceType(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X1R5G5B5,D3DFMT_X1R5G5B5,0)... Format not available
IDirect3D8Proxy::Release()
WEQ_Direct3DCreate8(220) successful
IDirect3D8Proxy::GetAdapterDisplayMode()
AdapterDisplayMode 1280x1024, D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,0,D3DRTYPE_TEXTURE,D3DFMT_A4R4G4B4)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,0,D3DRTYPE_TEXTURE,D3DFMT_DXT1)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CheckDeviceFormat(0,D3DDEVTYPE_HAL,D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8,0,D3DRTYPE_TEXTURE,D3DFMT_DXT3)... Format OK
IDirect3D8Proxy::CreateDevice()
-- Requested Direct3D8 Device Information --
AutoDepthStencilFormat: D3DFMT_D24X8
BackBufferCount: 1
BackBufferFormat: D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
BackBufferHeight: 864
BackBufferWidth: 1152
EnableAutoDepthStencil: 1
Flags: D3DPRESENTFLAG_LOCKABLE_BACKBUFFER
FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
hDeviceWindow: 0
MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
PresentationInterval: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
SwapEffect: D3DSWAPEFFECT_DISCARD
Windowed: 1
-- End Requested Direct3D8 Device Information --
Initializing resolution to 1152x864
D3DDEVTYPE_HAL
D3DCREATE_MIXED_VERTEXPROCESSING
D3DCREATE_MULTITHREADED
CreateDevice successful
IDirect3DDevice8Proxy::SetGammaRamp()...OK
IDirect3DDevice8Proxy::SetGammaRamp()...OK
WEQ_DirectInput8Create(1AD0000,800,0€y¿:H¢Mª™]dí6—,27B92A0,0)
IID_IDirectInput8A
WEQ_IDirectInput8A::CreateDevice(a+o ÕÏ¿ÇDEST)
Single-char Keyboard
WEQ_IDirectInput8A::CreateDevice(`+o ÕÏ¿ÇDEST)
Single-char Mouse
-- Requested Direct3D8 Device Information --
AutoDepthStencilFormat: D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
BackBufferCount: 0
BackBufferFormat: D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
BackBufferHeight: 0
BackBufferWidth: 0
EnableAutoDepthStencil: 0
Flags: NULL
FullScreen_RefreshRateInHz: 0
hDeviceWindow: 0
MultiSampleType: D3DMULTISAMPLE_NONE
PresentationInterval: D3DPRESENT_INTERVAL_DEFAULT
SwapEffect: D3DSWAPEFFECT_DISCARD
Windowed: 1
-- Requested Direct3D8 Device Information --
EQ Display Mode 1280x1024
IDirect3D8Proxy::Release()

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:55 pm

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00000:Starting EverQuest.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00001:Init point a.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00002:Init point b.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00003:Init point c.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00004:Init point d.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00005:Init point d1.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00006:Init point d2.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00007:Init point e.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00008:Init point f.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00009:Init point g.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00010:Init point h.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00000:Found adapter #0 - RADEON 9800 XT (6.14.10.6451)

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00001:Adapter #0 - RADEON 9800 XT :

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00002:32Bit = 1, D32 = 0, D24 = 1, D16 = 1

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00003:16Bit(565) = 1, D32 = 0, D24 = 1, D16 = 1

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00004:16Bit(1555) = 0, D32 = 0, D24 = 0, D16 = 0

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00011:Init point i.

[Sun Jul 18 16:03:00 2004]00012:Init point j.

That is with version 1

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:58 pm

BTW, I am running the exact same way as the first post.

Two Hardrive, both on seperate chains. Primary account is on SATA_0 the second is on IDE_0

Primary account has all graphics turned on and sound
Secondary account has all graphics turned on and nosound.txt

Post by **Lax** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 4:58 pm

I see you have EQPlayNice integration turned on. Have you tried disabling EQPlayNice integration? Also, what version of EQPlayNice do you have? 1.08 and earlier are known to crash. If this does not solve the problem I will try to use the information you have supplied to fix it for you

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:05 pm

I turned it off and it made no difference. I am useing the version of EQplaynice that was released on the 16th

Post by **Lax** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:11 pm

Okay, last few questions so that I know the system.

1) I see you have a Radeon 9800 XT. What version of the ATI Catalyst drivers are you using? I have tested with 4.6 and 4.7 successfully, but there may be problems with earlier drivers.
2) What version of Windows is this on?

fthis · Post by **fthis** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:14 pm

Catalyst 4.6
XP Pro - An Administrator account

undies · Post by **undies** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:09 pm

sorry, I was away a few days. I'll post the debug stuff as soon as I can.

Post by **Lax** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:18 pm

Make sure to update to WinEQ 1.00 as well, your problem is likely solved.