Ok, figgured it out much better.
If you open the character sheet window, and then open the local chat window, and then open the ship's cargo while docked, it should happen.
It stops when you hover the cursor over the 'minimize' or 'close' button at the top right of any window that has 'tooltips'.
apparently, the layer that tooltips go is being populated by some ui widgets. something like that.
Graphical oddity with new Eve client
Moderators: Lavish Software Team, Moderators
Yes, it seems to be tied into having certain chat windows open somehow. It all started for me about the time I pulled my local chat off into its own window (on the same day as the "dragon" patch, iirc, which is what made me suspect the patch had triggered it) and if I minimize that window it doesn't occur.But, i remember this happening for months and months. it's not some new change.
And I thought it was perhaps due to me having SLI. But seems I'm not the only one having this issue.
Are you guys perhaps also experiencing heavy InnerSpace cpu usage when playing in window'd mode and not having the Eve window active? I'm currently seeing ExeFile.exe (eve) take 55% cpu and InnerSpace.exe taking 45% cpu (and when eve isnt the active application, its lagging a lot, like 20 fps instead of the normal 60). I did disable the fps limiter (I think).
Without InnerSpace loaded, this does not happen. ExeFile.exe takes less CPU (20% and only sometimes goes to 40-50%) and doesnt lag when its not the foreground application anymore.
Are you guys perhaps also experiencing heavy InnerSpace cpu usage when playing in window'd mode and not having the Eve window active? I'm currently seeing ExeFile.exe (eve) take 55% cpu and InnerSpace.exe taking 45% cpu (and when eve isnt the active application, its lagging a lot, like 20 fps instead of the normal 60). I did disable the fps limiter (I think).
Without InnerSpace loaded, this does not happen. ExeFile.exe takes less CPU (20% and only sometimes goes to 40-50%) and doesnt lag when its not the foreground application anymore.
The fun thing is, if I minimize Eve (instead of leaving it on the background with another window above it), it doesnt seem to lag my system. But dont have hard numbers. Could it perhaps have something to do with my dual core cpu or SLI geforce setup ? (I've had weirder issues with it :p)Lax wrote:45% on InnerSpace.exe is nuts, it does next to nothing while idling. Even while I have the display up, it only uses up to 25% max just sitting there. Sorry for not getting to this sooner, I'm patching my EVE client now.and InnerSpace.exe taking 45% cpu
Working on some nice eve-things though, hacking eve was so much easier when I started using InnerSpace, the ability to easely output text to the console, load/unload new versions of an extension made my life easier
Which is exactly what Inner Space is all about! Seriously glad to have you on board.Da Teach wrote:Working on some nice eve-things though, hacking eve was so much easier when I started using InnerSpace, the ability to easely output text to the console, load/unload new versions of an extension made my life easier
SLI could potentially be an issue, but I am using a dual core AMD for all of my development so it's not likely to be related to that. You can set any given process to a single core through LavishScript with its proc command, e.g. "proc 1 only" or "proc 2 only" (CPUs 0 and 1, 1-based for people who dont know geek).Lax wrote:The fun thing is, if I minimize Eve (instead of leaving it on the background with another window above it), it doesnt seem to lag my system. But dont have hard numbers. Could it perhaps have something to do with my dual core cpu or SLI geforce setup ? (I've had weirder issues with it :p)
I'm having some problems getting EVE working though, the patcher crashed and left blue.dll unpatched so it wouldnt load a second time, then the installer stopped for unknown reasons. But, I'll try to work on this.
I'll try disabling one of my cards, see if the lag issue disapears. If you dont hear anything, then asume its not fixed 
Nasty thing about Eve hacking, most of the freaking client is written in Python. So to hack it you either have to write a script in Python (which I figured would be too easy for them to detect), or talk to the Python run-time compiler. Makes life a drag though, to call a method of a class you first need to get the class object, then the function object, then call that function object with a call.
Anyways, managed to get a test running already, so now its just finding what is what and get a bot up and running. Once I got that running, and made a few bilion isk, I'll release it
Nasty thing about Eve hacking, most of the freaking client is written in Python. So to hack it you either have to write a script in Python (which I figured would be too easy for them to detect), or talk to the Python run-time compiler. Makes life a drag though, to call a method of a class you first need to get the class object, then the function object, then call that function object with a call.
Anyways, managed to get a test running already, so now its just finding what is what and get a bot up and running. Once I got that running, and made a few bilion isk, I'll release it
Hey Da Teach, can you shed some light on eve hacking. If I decide to go easy route writing python scripts how do I go about it being executed ? And is there any chance of modifying there existing python code ? It seems to be already compiled - at least I assume it is by looking at the file in scripts subdirectory file "compiled.code" 5MB.Da Teach wrote:I'll try disabling one of my cards, see if the lag issue disapears. If you dont hear anything, then asume its not fixed
Nasty thing about Eve hacking, most of the freaking client is written in Python. So to hack it you either have to write a script in Python (which I figured would be too easy for them to detect), or talk to the Python run-time compiler. Makes life a drag though, to call a method of a class you first need to get the class object, then the function object, then call that function object with a call.
Anyways, managed to get a test running already, so now its just finding what is what and get a bot up and running. Once I got that running, and made a few bilion isk, I'll release it
Any chance you can share some of your findings? I am not interested in the bot just ways to hack into eve.
Thanks
Guys, if you want to talk Eve hacking, join me on the ismods board and I'll put on my Cr4zyb4rd hat and pontificate all day long...but can we please keep this thread for spamming Lax until he fixes my bug? Thanks. 
I'd noticed some oddness with Eve in the background myself, but figured it was just a hyper-threading artifact of some sort. It *would* be kind of nice to get scripts working properly in the background, but this graphics glitch is a real show-stopper for me at the moment.
I'd noticed some oddness with Eve in the background myself, but figured it was just a hyper-threading artifact of some sort. It *would* be kind of nice to get scripts working properly in the background, but this graphics glitch is a real show-stopper for me at the moment.
at any resolution, full screen or windowed, it seems to do this.
I load eve, enter the game, im docked at a station.
It's a little quirky. i entered the game with my character skills window, local chat and corp chat windows open. The problem was not there. I opened the cargo bay, and it appears. if i close any of those 4 windows, the problem goes away. If i open email while those 4 are open it goes away.
-If i hold the mouse over anything that creates a tooltip (the 'X' to click and exit a window or the minimize button for one of the windows or anything at all that would pop up a tooltip) it also goes away.
this is what it looks like.
I load eve, enter the game, im docked at a station.
It's a little quirky. i entered the game with my character skills window, local chat and corp chat windows open. The problem was not there. I opened the cargo bay, and it appears. if i close any of those 4 windows, the problem goes away. If i open email while those 4 are open it goes away.
-If i hold the mouse over anything that creates a tooltip (the 'X' to click and exit a window or the minimize button for one of the windows or anything at all that would pop up a tooltip) it also goes away.
this is what it looks like.
Actually, that's pretty sweet
I apologize for not having the time to fix this yet, I'm not ignoring it, just severely lacking time between my 2 jobs and Lavish doesnt make enough for me to hire someone to help atm. Anyway, I will get to this very soon -- when I started to work on it before, the Eve client and installer really fought with me.
I apologize for not having the time to fix this yet, I'm not ignoring it, just severely lacking time between my 2 jobs and Lavish doesnt make enough for me to hire someone to help atm. Anyway, I will get to this very soon -- when I started to work on it before, the Eve client and installer really fought with me.
WARNING: This is mostly a "Me too" post.
I just went from an AMD 1.3Ghz 1Gram 256M-nVidia to an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz 2Gram nVidia 7900GS. I saw this for the first time while running 3 instances of Eve client through IS on the new machine.
The reason I brought this up was I found the glitch to apear much less often with my People & Places window open, even minimized. Thought I'd pass that along. I hope it helps somehow.
I just went from an AMD 1.3Ghz 1Gram 256M-nVidia to an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz 2Gram nVidia 7900GS. I saw this for the first time while running 3 instances of Eve client through IS on the new machine.
The reason I brought this up was I found the glitch to apear much less often with my People & Places window open, even minimized. Thought I'd pass that along. I hope it helps somehow.
