WinEQ 2.12 - EverQuest 1 - issue with presets / profiles

[pharreneq]

now im not exactly sure if this is how the program is intended to function or not, but i cant see why it would be. i have set up 4 different profiles, simply named "1" through "4", but i will refer to them as EQ1-EQ4. because i was unfamiliar with the program and how it would store settings, i set EQ1 to use the normal eqclient.ini, and the rest to use their own eqclient files, hoping that it would save the window positions for each profile so that when i loaded them up the next time, they would be exactly where i left them. this was not the case. after spending several minutes tinkering with the individual eqclient files, loading and reloading the WinEQ instances, logging on characters and logging off etc etc, i came to the conclusion that the following eqclient.ini entries were not being used: FEWindowedModeXOffset, FEWindowedModeYOffset, WindowedModeXOffset, WindowedModeYOffset. since i saw nowhere else where i could save window positions, i decided to start playing with the presets...

i decided to name the presets the same way i named the profiles, 1-4, which turned out to make things rather confusing so ill refer to them as P1-P4. i saw no way to make the WinEQ instances use the window presets, so i opened the WinEQ-EQ.ini. i found both the preset and the profile settings stored there, as well as some hotkeys that i did not see in the WinEQ2 menu for EQ. after much frustration and playing with the hotkeys as well as closing and reloading WinEQ instances multiple times, i finally realized that the naming convention for the presets in the ini is a bit awkward.

in the profile settings in the WinEQ-EQ.ini, there is a setting that says Preset=0 by default. my custom presets started at 4, so that P1 = Preset4, P2 = Preset5, etc. at first i thought the Preset=0 was simply an off switch, but it actually refers to the Preset1 - which is very strange - because all of my WinEQ instances were using the window position for EQ2, which is NOT the same as default ... which is Preset1 ... that the Preset=0 was referring to.

the solution of course was to manually edit the profiles to use their corresponding preset numbers, minus 1 to compensate. there are a few things i dont understand though, and i thought maybe it was due to some error or oversight instead of actually being intended to behave this way:

- why is the naming in the WinEQ-EQ.ini screwy regarding the presets? the ini keys are named [Preset1] - [Preset7], so i assumed that when the entry for preset under the profiles would use "Preset1", "Preset2", etc

- why isnt there a way to change this using the preferences menu? i can see the hotkeys for activating the presets in the ini file but not in the menu, but even activating one via hotkey doesnt switch the profile settings to use that preset.

- if setting Preset=1 points to "Preset2", why doesnt Preset=0 point to "Preset1"?

- why was Preset=0 using the settings for "Preset5"? or was it not using those settings, and the window position was just a coincidence? (x=67, y=71)

- why isnt the window position just stored in the profiles themselves instead of needing custom window presets?

im really not trying to sound derrogatory or demanding; i just cant shake the feeling that either the program is not intended to work this way, or i am doing something horribly wrong.

heres the sysinfo if you still want it:

WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
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Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
System Physical RAM: 111/1023MB
Page File: 1565/2462MB
Virtual Memory: 1287/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 2500+ @ 1829MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/RADEON 9200
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAY2/RADEON 9200 - Secondary
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 4: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1280,1024) (1280x1024) PRIMARY
Sound: ¨
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.12

Loaded Modules:
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Module 0: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 15: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 22: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 23: C:\WINDOWS\Lavish.dll
Module 24: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 25: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 26: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 27: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 28: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 29: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 36: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 38: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 39: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 40: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 41: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 42: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\dpvs.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctagent.dll
Module 44: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 46: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 49: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll

Direct3D9:
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Driver: RADEON 9200/ati2dvag.dll/6/14/10/6575
Adapter Display Mode: 1280x1024 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 169MB
Direct3D8:
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Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
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EverQuest:
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Profile 2: 1
EQ Path: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch: OFF Test Server: OFF Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 0 (+0 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: INVALID VALUE 3
Sky: COMPLEX (+10 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 293MB (BASE+10MB)
Level of Detail: 0
MaxFPS: 30
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VertexShaders=0
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=0
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=0

i can send my WinEQ-EQ.ini as well if that would help.

thanks for reading

[Lax]

The .ini file doesnt really need to make sense, as everything is intended to be done through the preferences window. Most of the confusion you are having is due to presets being a subscriber feature, and nothing that is unavailable to you as a non-subscriber will appear in the menu or the preferences window.

At the time WinEQ 2 was created, the window stored positions did not exist, to my knowledge. It certainly makes perfect sense that they should be used if presets are unavailable to you (e.g. as a Lite user), and I will make the changes right now to make this work favorably for you

[pharreneq]

im not even sure if the entries from the eqclient.ini that i posted are used for storing window position or not. i dont see what else they would be used for, but i couldnt force them to change by logging in, moving my windowed mode (non-WinEQ) EQ window, and logging out and exiting the client.

the most confusing thing to me is why all 4 of my profiles were using the window position for profile 2, and where they were getting that window position from.

thanks for your reply, and if you do end up implementing the stored window positions, well, then thanks for that too

[Lax]

I'm not sure they are either, BUT as of this moment, you should be able to use WindowedModeXOffset and WindowedModeYOffset in eqclient.ini to set the location of the window. Restart WinEQ 2, let it patch, and you should be set.