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yman69
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Everquest freezing

Post by yman69 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:01 pm

I have a dual core system, 4 gigs of ram and 8800gtx vid card, and when I run two instances of Everquest, the first one will freeze after about 5-10 minutes of play. The other instance started works fine and continues to play. Not sure what the problem could be.

WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254
System Physical RAM: 1378/3327MB
Page File: 4691/6496MB
Virtual Memory: 865/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz @ 2399MHz
CPU 2: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz @ 2399MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 3
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1600,1200) (1600x1200) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 7.0.5730.11
WinEQ: 2.15

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Normaliz.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll
Module 22: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\xul.dll
Module 23: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\js3250.dll
Module 24: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\nspr4.dll
Module 25: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\MSVCR71.dll
Module 26: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\plc4.dll
Module 27: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\plds4.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 29: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMCTL32.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2982_x-ww_ac3f9c03\comctl32.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll
Module 36: C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\lgscroll.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.163_x-ww_681e29fb\MSVCR80.dll
Module 38: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.163_x-ww_681e29fb\MSVCP80.dll
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 40: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 41: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 42: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 44: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 46: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 49: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 50: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 51: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 52: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 53: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 54: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 55: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 56: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 57: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime
Module 58: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 59: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 60: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 61: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 62: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctagent.dll
Module 63: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 64: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 65: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 66: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 67: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 68: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 69: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL
Module 70: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 71: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 72: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 73: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 74: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 75: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 76: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 77: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
Module 78: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 79: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 80: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 81: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 82: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 83: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\DSOUND.DLL
Module 84: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL
Module 85: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll
Module 86: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CTDPROXY.DLL
Module 87: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ct_oal.dll

Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX/nv4_disp.dll/6/14/11/5822
Adapter Display Mode: 1600x1200 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1280x1024 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8 (Windowed)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 759MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: WinEQ 2.0 Default Profile
EQ Path: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch: OFF Server Type: Normal Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 27 (+135 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
MipMapping: ON (+4 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Dynamic Lighting: ON (+4 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: MEDIUM (+30 min RAM)
Sky: COMPLEX (+10 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 488MB (BASE+205MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VertexShaders=1
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=1
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=1
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fearless
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Post by fearless » Fri Jun 15, 2007 5:48 pm

It seems you cut the EQPN settings off the sysinfo. Could you post that as well please?
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yman69
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Post by yman69 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:02 pm

The info that is posted is all that was in my sysinfo file. But I think I may have figured out what my problem was. Still testing it to see
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yman69
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Post by yman69 » Fri Jun 15, 2007 6:16 pm

Well, it locked again, but took closer to like 45 minutes this time. I turned on cpu affinity and it seemed to be doing better but finally locked. Will repost my info

WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.070227-2254
System Physical RAM: 112/3327MB
Page File: 3025/6496MB
Virtual Memory: 990/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz @ 2399MHz
CPU 2: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU 6600 @ 2.40GHz @ 2399MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1600,1200) (1600x1200) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 7.0.5730.11
WinEQ: 2.15

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Normaliz.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iertutil.dll
Module 22: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\xul.dll
Module 23: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\js3250.dll
Module 24: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\nspr4.dll
Module 25: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\MSVCR71.dll
Module 26: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\plc4.dll
Module 27: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\plds4.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 29: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINSPOOL.DRV
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comdlg32.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMCTL32.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2982_x-ww_ac3f9c03\comctl32.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\system32\uxtheme.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSCTF.dll
Module 36: C:\Program Files\Logitech\SetPoint\lgscroll.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.163_x-ww_681e29fb\MSVCR80.dll
Module 38: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.VC80.CRT_1fc8b3b9a1e18e3b_8.0.50727.163_x-ww_681e29fb\MSVCP80.dll
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 40: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 41: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 42: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 44: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 46: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 49: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 50: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 51: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 52: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 53: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 54: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 55: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 56: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 57: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msctfime.ime
Module 58: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 59: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 60: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 61: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 62: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctagent.dll
Module 63: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 64: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 65: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 66: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 67: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 68: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 69: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.DLL
Module 70: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 71: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 72: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 73: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 74: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 75: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 76: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 77: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
Module 78: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 79: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 80: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 81: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 82: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 83: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest\DSOUND.DLL
Module 84: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL
Module 85: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll
Module 86: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\CTDPROXY.DLL
Module 87: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ct_oal.dll

Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX/nv4_disp.dll/6/14/11/5822
Adapter Display Mode: 1600x1200 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1280x1024 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8 (Windowed)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 155MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: WinEQ 2.0 Default Profile
EQ Path: C:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch: OFF Server Type: Normal Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 27 (+135 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
MipMapping: ON (+4 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Dynamic Lighting: ON (+4 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: MEDIUM (+30 min RAM)
Sky: COMPLEX (+10 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 488MB (BASE+205MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VertexShaders=1
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=1
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=1


This is a repost, don't think there are any changes from the previous post
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Lax
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Post by Lax » Sat Jun 16, 2007 10:23 am

He didn't cut out the EQPN information, he has EQPlayNice disabled.

So you had disabled the options that are there to help protect you from overheating problems (both CPU and video), as well as CPU saturation...

The first thing I would do is update your video card drivers, they appear to be out of date. Your second sysinfo indicates that your system RAM is about 100MB free. It wouldn't surprise me if you're running out of physical RAM and seeing problems as a result of it, and it also wouldn't surprise me if you're having overheating problems, aaaand it wouldn't surprise me one bit if it's simply a driver issue.

You can help resolve heat issues by enabling EQPlayNice, but if it's due to overheating, permanent unrecoverable damage may already be done to the overheating components.
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Post by yman69 » Sat Jun 16, 2007 6:04 pm

Well, I know for a fact my system isn't overheating. My cpu under full load runs about 95 degrees F. My vid card running about 150F. As for the free mem, With 4 gigs of ram, if I can't run two instances of EQ without filling up my ram, then there is a problem somewhere. Running an instance of EQ without wineq2 takes up about 40% of my memory (includes all the system files etc). As for the video driver, I'm running the latest one from nvidia for the 8800.
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Post by fearless » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:38 am

Well, you don't have 4gb of ram, you have 3.3gb of ram.

With 32bit operating systems, the maximum amount of addressable memory is 4gb. From that 4gb you subtract any motherboard resources that need mapped out, you also subtract your video card memory.

So yes, you can certainly put 4gb of ram in a lot of computers out there, but the 32bit operating systems out there can't use the full 4gb as ram because of its own limitation. If you want to be able to use 4gb of ram, move to a 64bit OS.

Lastly, the lockup / freezes that you describe are most commonly attributed to (in no specific order): heat / drivers / bad hardware (ram or video ram) / configuration.
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Post by Lax » Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:38 am

About the RAM, all you have to do is take a look at the numbers. Your first sysinfo.txt has 1378/3327MB available, and your second has 112/3327MB available. I imagine you have something other than EverQuest running as well, so that's likely to be what's "wrong". :roll:

When something runs for 45 minutes and then breaks, it's usually hardware related unless there's a memory leak, which there's not in WinEQ but may be in EverQuest.

I don't imagine it would work any different if you ran 2 EQ sessions without WinEQ. But you're the expert.
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