Missing geometry and screen flickering

[JJ Rodriguez]

When using WinEQ2 for Everquest 1, a lot of my textures appear to be missing. Also, I notice my screen flickering. EQ does not do this when running without WinEQ2, and it also did not do this until I subscribed to the paid version. Is anyone else experiencing any issues with this? Missing textures would usually mean low memory, but EQ doesn't do this unless WinEQ is loaded.

[Lax]

More specifically, missing textures indicate low texture memory, which is shared video card and system RAM. If you can make the issue happen, then right click on the game window's title bar and select "Get System Info" and paste the results here, this will be easier for myself or another user to help you with your issue

[JJ Rodriguez]

I don't understand why WinEQ would make EQ use more texture memory than running without EQplaynice running. Is there some setting to make it use my texture memory better or something? Like I said, this only happened once I upgraded. Here's the file you requested.

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WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158
System Physical RAM: 246/1022MB
Page File: 1655/2456MB
Virtual Memory: 1254/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1838MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/RADEON X850 Series  
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAY2/RADEON X850 Series - Secondary  
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 4: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1024,768) (1024x768) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.14

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: G:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: G:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: G:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: G:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: G:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: G:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: G:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 21: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 22: G:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
Module 23: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 24: G:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 25: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ShimEng.dll
Module 26: G:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
Module 27: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
Module 28: G:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
Module 29: G:\WINDOWS\system32\UxTheme.dll
Module 30: G:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll
Module 31: G:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 32: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 33: G:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 34: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 35: G:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 36: G:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 37: G:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 38: G:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 39: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 40: G:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 41: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 42: G:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 43: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 44: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 45: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 46: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 47: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 48: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\EQPlayNice.dll
Module 49: G:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 50: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 51: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 52: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 53: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 54: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 55: G:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 56: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 57: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 58: G:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 59: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 60: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 61: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 62: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 63: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 64: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 65: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 66: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 67: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 68: G:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 69: G:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 70: G:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 71: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.DLL
Module 72: G:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll
Module 73: G:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll

Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: RADEON X850 Series  /ati2dvag.dll/6/14/10/6641
Adapter Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8 (Full Screen)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 346MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: WinEQ 2.0 Default Profile
EQ Path: D:\Program Files\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch:  ON  Server Type: Normal  Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 29 (+145 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: LOW (+0 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 450MB (BASE+167MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: VertexShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=TRUE

EQPlayNice:
-----------------------------------
EQ Version: eqgame.exe Oct 23 2006 17:34:12
Foreground
Mode: FPS Limiter
Max FPS: 40
Rendering: 1/3
Background
Mode: CPU Limiter
Max FPS: 30
Rendering: 1/30

[Lax]

It really doesnt use any more texture memory.

According to your system info, you have plenty of texture memory remaining (Available Texture Memory: 346MB), so that must not be the issue here -- unless the posted info was not generated by clicking Get System Info while textures were missing. I've never heard of missing textures for any other reason, though. If you're sure it has something to do with WinEQ 2 Pro vs Lite, make a second Lavish account for testing purposes and leave it Lite, switch to that account via the "Lavish Software Login" selection from the WinEQ 2 menu, and restart WinEQ 2. If you are correct, then the problem will disappear when using the Lite account, and reappear when you switch back to the Pro account.

I suspect, however, that this is caused by an EQ1 texture memory usage bug that I've heard users speak of. If you haven't rebooted, try doing so first.

[JJ Rodriguez]

I've rebooted and reinstalled EQ twice before I figured out it was WinEQ. Making a second account now.

[JJ Rodriguez]

It works fine with a lite account.

[JJ Rodriguez]

Here's the system info with the lite account.

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WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158
System Physical RAM: 317/1022MB
Page File: 1654/2456MB
Virtual Memory: 1256/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3000+ @ 1838MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/RADEON X850 Series  
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAY2/RADEON X850 Series - Secondary  
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 4: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1024,768) (1024x768) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.14

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: G:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: G:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: G:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: G:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: G:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: G:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: G:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 21: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 22: G:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
Module 23: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 24: G:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 25: G:\WINDOWS\system32\ShimEng.dll
Module 26: G:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
Module 27: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
Module 28: G:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
Module 29: G:\WINDOWS\system32\UxTheme.dll
Module 30: G:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll
Module 31: G:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 32: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 33: G:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 34: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 35: G:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 36: G:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 37: G:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 38: G:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 39: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 40: G:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 41: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 42: G:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 43: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 44: G:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 45: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 46: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 47: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 48: G:\Program Files\WinEQ2\EQPlayNice.dll
Module 49: G:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 50: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 51: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 52: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 53: G:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 54: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 55: G:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 56: G:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 57: G:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 58: G:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 59: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 60: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 61: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 62: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 63: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 64: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 65: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 66: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 67: D:\Program Files\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 68: G:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 69: G:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 70: G:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 71: G:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.DLL
Module 72: G:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll

Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: RADEON X850 Series  /ati2dvag.dll/6/14/10/6641
Adapter Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN (Windowed)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 347MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: WinEQ 2.0 Default Profile
EQ Path: D:\Program Files\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch:  ON  Server Type: Normal  Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 29 (+145 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: LOW (+0 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 450MB (BASE+167MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: VertexShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=TRUE

EQPlayNice:
-----------------------------------
EQ Version: eqgame.exe Oct 23 2006 17:34:12
Foreground
Mode: FPS Limiter
Max FPS: 40
Rendering: 1/3
Background
Mode: CPU Limiter
Max FPS: 30
Rendering: 1/30

[Lax]

Err now that I re-read your post, I see that you're saying "missing geometry" whereas my brain was reading "missing" and filling in "textures" and ignoring the part about flickering, which clearly points out what the problem is.

I will heartily assume that you are simply seeing the Rendering Limiting feature of EQPlayNice Pro, which is intended for background sessions (e.g. while EQ is not in the foreground) to stop rendering the world, except for about once per second. The reason you are seeing it in the foreground is that your EQPlayNice is apparently set to render 1 in 3 (one third of the time) in the forergound, instead of 1 in 1 (all of the time). Go into WinEQ 2 Preferences, and under EQPlayNice, for the Forergound, set the rendering limit number to 1 instead of 3

[JJ Rodriguez]

Well that fixed it, thanks I thought EQ Play Nice would have worked in the lite version too, didn't know it was one of the features of Pro.

[Lax]

Only the coolest features of EQPlayNice are reserved for the Pro version.