Missing geometry in EQ1 when using advanced lightning.

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Wishbringer
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Missing geometry in EQ1 when using advanced lightning.

Post by Wishbringer » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:08 pm

It is a non crash bug, but whenever I run EQ1 with advanced Lightning Shaders enabled and then press ALT+Enter to fix the slowdown issue with EQ1, my whole geometry in a zone disappears and all that is left is character models.
This does not happen when I run Everquest without WinEQ2.
Any way to fix this? maybe I got some settings wrong inside Everquest or WinEQ2?
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Post by Lax » Wed Oct 18, 2006 2:06 pm

Well, it clearly sounds like the fix is to either not use advanced lighting, or not press alt+enter ;)

But seriously.. slowdown issue?

I'll look into it... it sounds like you're running out of texture RAM though, so if you could actually right click the window title bar and click Generate System Info when you've gotten the problem and post that, that would help.
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Post by Wishbringer » Wed Oct 18, 2006 6:42 pm

I'll include both before and after sysinfo.txt.
Before using ALT+Enter:

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WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
System Physical RAM: 61/1023MB
Page File: 1395/2464MB
Virtual Memory: 933/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1:               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3064MHz
CPU 2:               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3064MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1680,1050) (1680x1050) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.14

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: D:\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: D:\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: D:\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
Module 22: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 23: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 24: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 25: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2982_x-ww_ac3f9c03\comctl32.dll
Module 26: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 27: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 29: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 36: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 38: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 40: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 41: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 42: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll
Module 44: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 46: D:\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 49: D:\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 50: D:\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 51: D:\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 52: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 53: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 54: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 55: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.DLL
Module 56: C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll
Module 57: C:\programme\powerstrip\pshook.dll
Module 58: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 59: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 60: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 61: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 62: D:\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 63: D:\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 64: D:\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 65: D:\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 66: D:\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 67: D:\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 68: D:\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 69: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll



Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT/nv4_disp.dll/6/14/10/9291
Adapter Display Mode: 1680x1050 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1680x1050 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8 (Full Screen)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 247MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: EverQuest 1
EQ Path: D:\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\wineqclient1.ini
Patch: OFF  Server Type: Normal  Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 2 (+10 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
MipMapping: ON (+4 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Dynamic Lighting: ON (+4 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: HIGH (+32 min RAM)
Sky: COMPLEX (+10 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 365MB (BASE+82MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VSync=0
Additional setting: VertexShaders=1
Additional setting: AccurateLighting=FALSE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=1
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=1

After using ALT+Enter:

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WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
-----------------------------------
Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.050301-1519
System Physical RAM: 56/1023MB
Page File: 1396/2464MB
Virtual Memory: 935/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1:               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3064MHz
CPU 2:               Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.06GHz @ 3064MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 1
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1680,1050) (1680x1050) PRIMARY
Sound: ?
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.14

Loaded Modules:
-----------------------------------
Module 0: D:\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: D:\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3dx9_30.dll
Module 15: D:\EverQuest\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WININET.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\system32\OLEAUT32.dll
Module 22: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 23: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 24: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 25: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2982_x-ww_ac3f9c03\comctl32.dll
Module 26: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 27: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 29: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\Lavish.dll
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\system32\iphlpapi.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 36: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 38: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 40: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 41: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 42: C:\Programme\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll
Module 44: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 46: D:\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 49: D:\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 50: D:\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 51: D:\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 52: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 53: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 54: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 55: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.DLL
Module 56: C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll
Module 57: C:\programme\powerstrip\pshook.dll
Module 58: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 59: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 60: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 61: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll
Module 62: D:\EverQuest\mssmp3.asi
Module 63: D:\EverQuest\mssvoice.asi
Module 64: D:\EverQuest\mssa3d.m3d
Module 65: D:\EverQuest\mssds3d.m3d
Module 66: D:\EverQuest\mssdx7.m3d
Module 67: D:\EverQuest\msseax.m3d
Module 68: D:\EverQuest\mssrsx.m3d
Module 69: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSACM32.dll
Module 70: D:\EverQuest\msssoft.m3d
Module 71: D:\EverQuest\mssdsp.flt
Module 72: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv
Module 73: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msacm32.drv
Module 74: C:\WINDOWS\system32\midimap.dll
Module 75: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DSOUND.DLL
Module 76: C:\WINDOWS\system32\KsUser.dll
Module 97: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll
Module 98: C:\WINDOWS\system32\netapi32.dll
Module 99: C:\WINDOWS\system32\appHelp.dll
Module 100: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CLBCATQ.DLL
Module 101: C:\WINDOWS\system32\COMRes.dll
Module 102: C:\WINDOWS\system32\shdocvw.dll
Module 103: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPTUI.dll
Module 104: C:\WINDOWS\system32\urlmon.dll
Module 105: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Secur32.dll

Direct3D9:
-----------------------------------
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT/nv4_disp.dll/6/14/10/9291
Adapter Display Mode: 1680x1050 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1680x1050 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN (Windowed)
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 260MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 1: EverQuest 1
EQ Path: D:\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\wineqclient1.ini
Patch: OFF  Server Type: Normal  Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 2 (+10 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
MipMapping: ON (+4 min RAM)
Sound: ON (+22 min RAM)
Dynamic Lighting: ON (+4 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: HIGH (+32 min RAM)
Sky: COMPLEX (+10 min RAM)
Calculated minimum RAM: 365MB (BASE+82MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VSync=0
Additional setting: VertexShaders=1
Additional setting: AccurateLighting=FALSE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=1
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=1
Thank you for looking into this Lax! :D
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Post by Lax » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:23 pm

:shock:

Your RAM is long gone.

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System Physical RAM: 56/1023MB
Page File: 1396/2464MB
Virtual Memory: 935/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
You're using 2GB of RAM, and you have 1GB. All bets are off when that happens. Unless you can get me snapshots of having this problem when you are using less memory than you have, then my assumption MUST be that it is caused by running out of memory.
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Post by Wishbringer » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:14 pm

What should my settings be when changing the paging file size with 1 gig of ram?

And is this the way I should do it?
http://technet2.microsoft.com/WindowsSe ... 91033.mspx

I am a little clumsy with those settings and I dont want to further fuck up my comp.

Thank you for any help you could provide. :)
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Post by Lax » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:24 pm

Your page file size is perfectly fine. The problem is that you're using more physical RAM than you have, so things that are supposed to be stored in RAM are getting stored on disk -- in the page file, which has plenty of room to spare. The only way to solve this problem is to a) put more physical RAM into your system, or b) decrease your RAM usage by closing programs.
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Post by Wishbringer » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:50 pm

Lax wrote:YThe only way to solve this problem is to a) put more physical RAM into your system, or b) decrease your RAM usage by closing programs.
Hmm, I guess then I am out of luck, because I already shutdown everything possible in the task manager I can except for AVG Antivirus.. :cry:
Buying more ram is my only solution it seems.
I was just wondering if it is wineq2 related because when I run everquest without WinEQ2, I can ALT+Enter as often as I want and do not get this error. Same for a friends machine. Without WinEQ2 it works, with WinEQ2 it basically looks like the infamous "west bug" where everything except for character models is missing.

Thank you for your time though. :)
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Post by Lax » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:01 pm

If you shut down everything and you're still using way too much RAM, then i dont know what's wrong with your computer aside from something running and using way too much RAM ;) Is this with 1 EQ session?

You can hit CTRL+ALT+DEL and look in the "Processes" tab to see things that are taking a lot of RAM. At the bottom is a "Commit Charge" display, mine says 1762M/3429M -- i have 2GB of RAM, so if the first number goes over 2048, then I'm swapping RAM to disk and everything will go slow and be unpredictable. In your case, if you went over 1024M, you would be swapping RAM to disk and everything will go slow and be unpredictable.
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Post by Wishbringer » Fri Oct 20, 2006 11:53 am

Without EQ running after a fresh reboot it lists 201M with explorer.exe and firefox exe being the biggest memory hogs atm at around 30.000k. svchost around 23.000k.

Now after starting WinEQ2 and Everquest it lists 272M at the moment (I am in the login screen), and when I open the sysinfo.txt it reads:
System Physical RAM: 630/1023MB
Page File: 1682/1952MB
Virtual Memory: 1924/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)

Does this info help any?
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Post by Lax » Fri Oct 20, 2006 12:02 pm

Yes, because at that point you have plenty of free RAM, and I'd wager you'd have no problems
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Post by Wishbringer » Fri Oct 20, 2006 3:04 pm

After logging in System Physical RAM changes to around 900/1023MB at the moment now. Still have this issue now though.
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Post by fearless » Fri Oct 20, 2006 4:11 pm

If you are at 900mb of used ram with a single session, you have a LOT of extra crap running.

To boot XP it takes about 110mb of ram. Add EQ at 500mb or so of ram and you still have 200mb+ being lost somewhere.

I would highly suggest visiting http://housecall.trendmicro.com to run some scans.
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Post by Wishbringer » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:41 pm

For me EQ is more than 500mb of ram, no clue why, and housecall.trendmicro.com doesn't give me any answer either. :cry:
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