Memory usage to high?

delfi · Post by **delfi** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:12 pm

Hello,
I am currently running a p4 2.4ghz, Geforce Ti4600 128mb, with 1.5 gigs of Ram. I am trying to run three eq sessions but I am getting system warning messages and even at times droppin to zero. I have all settings turned off except for Male Erudite/Male Halfling models(with horses also). When I get all three booted and running around task manager says each is using around 380mbs of Ram.(This is in Omens zone, less then 10 people..nobody else close to me) From what I understand I should be able to run this configuration. I am running all three in different corners of screen and they are at 800x600-32bit(with desktop rez of 1280x1024). I have had my AGP bios settings at 256mb but they haven't ever gotten close to being low so I have moved them to 128 and seeing if this helps. Would you have any other suggestions for me? 380 per session seems quite high for my settings.(This is with two of my clip planes all the way down with no sky, and one of them at 50percent with simple sky).

Thanks for any help you might be able to supply.
Delfi
P.S. I would post my system specs or logs or whatever you ask for alot but I am not quite sure how to obtain these things for you. If not to busy to point me to some directions or write up a short description yourself I can grab those for ya. Thanks again.

Post by **Lax** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:21 pm

Shift+Right Click while in the game without having the mouse released, select "Generate System Info" on the menu that pops up, and the relevant information will open in a notepad window. Copy/paste that in a post

Reducing AGP Aperture won't usually help, because it generally only comes to play when you run out of physical memory on your video card. It lets your video card borrow system RAM, but only when it runs out of its own memory.

Paste the info and I may have some suggestions from that, or you may even be able to discover something that you can do on your own from the information

delfi · Post by **delfi** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:29 pm

WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
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Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 2/2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158
System Physical RAM: 859/1534MB
Page File: 2897/3434MB
Virtual Memory: 1241/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.40GHz @ 2400MHz
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (Omega 1.6177) (P)
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1280,1024) (1280x1024) PRIMARY
Sound: ¨
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2900.2180
WinEQ: 2.07

Loaded Modules:
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Module 0: C:\Program Files\EverQuest\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: C:\Program Files\EverQuest\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINMM.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMM32.dll
Module 15: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.2180_x-ww_a84f1ff9\comctl32.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 20: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\Lavish.dll
Module 22: C:\WINDOWS\system32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 23: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 24: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 25: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 26: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 27: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 29: C:\WINDOWS\system32\hnetcfg.dll
Module 30: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 32: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 33: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 34: C:\WINDOWS\system32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 35: C:\Program Files\WinEQ2\EQPlayNice.dll
Module 36: C:\WINDOWS\system32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 38: C:\Program Files\EverQuest\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d9.dll
Module 40: C:\WINDOWS\system32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 41: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 42: C:\Program Files\EverQuest\dpvs.dll
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctagent.dll
Module 44: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usp10.dll
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\system32\HID.DLL
Module 46: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 47: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WINTRUST.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\system32\CRYPT32.dll
Module 49: C:\WINDOWS\system32\MSASN1.dll
Module 50: C:\WINDOWS\system32\IMAGEHLP.dll

Direct3D9:
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Driver: NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 (Omega 1.6177) (P)/nv4_disp.dll/6/14/10/6177
Adapter Display Mode: 1280x1024 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 800x600 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 176MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
-----------------------------------
Profile 4: EQ-DELFI
EQ Path: C:\Program Files\EverQuest
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch: OFF Test Server: OFF Locale: us
Video Adapter: Application Controlled
Luclin models: 3 (+15 min RAM)
Texture Compression: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Caching: ON (+0 min RAM)
Texture Quality: INVALID VALUE 3
Calculated minimum RAM: 298MB (BASE+15MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: VertexShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=TRUE

EQPlayNice:
-----------------------------------
EQ Version: eqgame.exe Apr 11 2005 14:42:23
Foreground
Mode: FPS Limiter
Max FPS: 40
Rendering: 1/1
Background
Mode: CPU Limiter
Max FPS: 30
Rendering: 1/30

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There it is. I just entered game and I am at 389 Ram usuage after about 5mins. Didn't zone or even move or look around. Thanks.(Only one charecter running also btw)

Post by **Lax** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:46 pm

Ok. Well, not much else you can do to lower your memory usage per session from my point of view

. The minimum RAM shown is just that -- minimum. Once you enter the game and it loads all of the extra textures, players, monsters and other stuff depending on what zone you're in, the actual usage increases. The minimum is just to enter the game. Your usage will be lower in older zones, as with each new expansion they add new memory requirements.

Your other options are of course to increase system RAM or to decrease the amount already in use before you play EQ.

delfi · Post by **delfi** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:48 pm

Alright thanks. Also would it be better if I ran them all full screen at 800x600 and then alt tabbed them, instead of runnin all 3 in different corners?

Delfi

Post by **Lax** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:59 pm

Screen resolution only affects performance and video RAM usage, so if your issue is system RAM, it's not going to help much by changing it. The number of visible windows wont change much either

Blazer · Post by **Blazer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:13 pm

I use to run wineq2.0 with 3200xp amd chip, 1.5gig ram, 9800pro ati card with 256mb (which is a lower end system spec to the one you listed above). EQ1 sessions were set to 1024x768 and the maximum number of sessions I was succesfully able to run was 7. Yes, that was on the extreme end, but worked well for me:)

Blazer · Post by **Blazer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:15 pm

Just noticed you only had 128mb vid card, guess thats where your problem is.

Post by **Lax** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:19 pm

Nah, the 128MB difference on his video card is miniscule compared to 1.5GB of RAM. More video ram is mostly for running more sessions, as you can't run another session without more physical video RAM. His issue is his physical RAM limitation, combined with running programs and the zone he's in. He can RUN more sessions, but he's running out of physical system RAM, just as you would definitely be more than 600-900MB in the hole running 7 sessions on 1.5GB

Blazer · Post by **Blazer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:27 pm

Yeh thats true. Plus my sessions were overlapping. Im just amazed I was able to run that many to begin with, and not crash. This also included running mq2, which takes up more system resources:)
I was merely comparing my scenario with his, and my scenerio was still very playable.

brandon76 · Post by **brandon76** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:01 pm

I don't post too often, but in this case I hope I can offer some help. First did you buy your computer form a place like best buy or dell, or did you build it and install everything your self. If you bought it preconfigured you should reinstall your operating system. The store configured systems come with lots of addtional advertising and unnessary program installed. Do you surf the net a lot? This can cause you to pick up add ware. Download spybot search and destory. This is an adware remover. Too much adware in the background can bring a computer to it knees in a hurry.

Just a suggestion.

jaq · Post by **jaq** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:40 am

If your wanting a 2 box system, and not to worried about perfect functions in os (Things like prting, network winows networking etc), I can post a list of services to diasble.

I was able to squeeze a bit of ram that way. Its not much, but it helped.