BUG - All characters moving at the same time

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:54 pm

I took a break for about 5 weeks, came back about 2 weeks ago and I started noticing, somtimes I would switch from one character to another and then I would notice I was moving both characters at the same time. Along with this I was also experiencing some crashes, but I went through the Sony boards and deleted a few files, redid some settings etc and the crashes have stopped.
However, this problem where I switch from one instance to another has continued on. Today I was dual boxing and suddently I noticed my other character had ran right into the camp as I was coming back with another mob and got promptly killed. I should say, this character was just sitting (a healer) in one spot, I had not moved him or anything, i know sometimes you can push a direction or something and switch quick and the character on the previous session will keep moving. What I am seeing is I can moving both at the same time in the same way. I can turn, or back up, or go forward etc.
Perhaps I inadvertantly changed some setting way back just before I stopped playing or something, not sure, but why would anyone want this sort of behaviour is what I am thinking, so I figure it has to be a bug.

Thanks for any help

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:56 pm

I guess I should have mentioned this is with WinEQ 2.0 Pro and also it is when I play Everquest.

Post by **Lax** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 3:58 pm

Post the contents of your SysInfo.txt for me. Is this on US english servers? Also, what mechanisms do you use to switch sessions, very specifically (e.g. do you click on a session after pressing alt+esc or windows key, do you use alt+tab, do you use ctrl+alt+1, do you use ctrl+alt+x)?

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:04 pm

I made the key to switch back and forth to be Tab and I also made sure that key is not bound in Everquest. I have always used this method and only ever had this type of behaviour since I came back a couple of weeks ago.

Here is my sysinfo

WinEQ 2 System Information
System:
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Windows Version: Microsoft Windows XP/Service Pack 1/2600.xpsp2.050301-1526
System Physical RAM: 2526/3071MB
Page File: 4591/4961MB
Virtual Memory: 1275/2047MB (Extended: 0MB)
CPU 1: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 2998MHz
CPU 2: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz @ 2998MHz
CPU Affinity Mask: 2
Video 1: \\.\DISPLAY1/RADEON X800 PRO
Video 2: \\.\DISPLAY2/RADEON X800 PRO Secondary
Video 3: \\.\DISPLAYV1/NetMeeting driver
Video 4: \\.\DISPLAYV2/RDPDD Chained DD
Monitor 1: \\.\DISPLAY1 (0,0,1024,768) (1024x768) PRIMARY
Monitor 2: \\.\DISPLAY2 (1024,0,2048,768) (1024x768)
Sound: ¨
DirectX: 4.09.00.0904
Internet Explorer: 6.0.2800.1106
WinEQ: 2.11

Loaded Modules:
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Module 0: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\eqgame.exe
Module 1: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ntdll.dll
Module 2: C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
Module 3: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\mss32.dll
Module 4: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USER32.dll
Module 5: C:\WINDOWS\system32\GDI32.dll
Module 6: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ADVAPI32.dll
Module 7: C:\WINDOWS\system32\RPCRT4.dll
Module 8: C:\WINDOWS\System32\WINMM.dll
Module 9: C:\WINDOWS\System32\WSOCK32.dll
Module 10: C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2_32.dll
Module 11: C:\WINDOWS\system32\msvcrt.dll
Module 12: C:\WINDOWS\System32\WS2HELP.dll
Module 13: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DINPUT8.dll
Module 14: C:\WINDOWS\System32\IMM32.dll
Module 15: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\DSETUP.dll
Module 16: C:\WINDOWS\system32\VERSION.dll
Module 17: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ole32.dll
Module 18: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHELL32.dll
Module 19: C:\WINDOWS\system32\SHLWAPI.dll
Module 20: C:\WINDOWS\System32\ShimEng.dll
Module 21: C:\WINDOWS\AppPatch\AcGenral.DLL
Module 22: C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSACM32.dll
Module 23: C:\WINDOWS\system32\USERENV.dll
Module 24: C:\WINDOWS\System32\UxTheme.dll
Module 25: C:\WINDOWS\WinSxS\x86_Microsoft.Windows.Common-Controls_6595b64144ccf1df_6.0.2600.1643_x-ww_7c3a9bc6\comctl32.dll
Module 26: C:\WINDOWS\system32\comctl32.dll
Module 27: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2.dll
Module 28: C:\WINDOWS\Lavish.dll
Module 29: C:\WINDOWS\System32\PSAPI.DLL
Module 30: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-EQ.dll
Module 31: C:\WINDOWS\System32\MSIMG32.dll
Module 32: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D9.dll
Module 33: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-D3D8.dll
Module 34: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\WinEQ2-DI8.dll
Module 35: C:\WINDOWS\system32\mswsock.dll
Module 36: C:\WINDOWS\System32\wshtcpip.dll
Module 37: C:\WINDOWS\System32\DNSAPI.dll
Module 38: C:\WINDOWS\System32\winrnr.dll
Module 39: C:\WINDOWS\system32\WLDAP32.dll
Module 40: C:\WINDOWS\System32\rasadhlp.dll
Module 41: E:\Program Files\WinEQ2\EQPlayNice.dll
Module 42: C:\WINDOWS\System32\NTMARTA.DLL
Module 43: C:\WINDOWS\System32\SAMLIB.dll
Module 44: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\EQGraphicsDX9.DLL
Module 45: C:\WINDOWS\System32\d3d9.dll
Module 46: C:\WINDOWS\System32\d3d8thk.dll
Module 47: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy\dpvs.dll
Module 48: C:\WINDOWS\System32\HID.DLL
Module 49: C:\WINDOWS\System32\SETUPAPI.DLL
Module 50: C:\WINDOWS\System32\usp10.dll

Direct3D9:
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Driver: RADEON X800 PRO/ati2dvag.dll/6/14/10/6561
Adapter Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_X8R8G8B8
Game Display Mode: 1024x768 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: 299MB
Direct3D8:
-----------------------------------
Adapter Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Game Display Mode: 0x0 D3DFMT_UNKNOWN
Current Adapter: 0
Available Texture Memory: (not currently available)
DirectInput8:
-----------------------------------

EverQuest:
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Profile 2: MainMonitorPIP
EQ Path: E:\Program Files\Sony\EverQuest Trilogy
EQClient.ini: .\eqclient.ini
Patch: OFF Test Server: OFF Locale: us
Video Adapter: Primary
Luclin models: 16 (+80 min RAM)
Texture Quality: INVALID VALUE 3
Calculated minimum RAM: 363MB (BASE+80MB)
Level of Detail: 1
MaxFPS: 100
Additional setting: HardwareTnL=TRUE
Additional setting: VertexShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 20PixelShaders=TRUE
Additional setting: 1xPixelShaders=TRUE

EQPlayNice:
-----------------------------------
EQ Version: eqgame.exe Aug 4 2005 15:40:59
Foreground
Mode: FPS Limiter
Max FPS: 40
Rendering: 1/1
Background
Mode: CPU Limiter
Max FPS: 30
Rendering: 1/30

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 4:14 pm

Oops forgot to mention, yes this is US english servers.

Post by **Lax** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 8:00 pm

Well, here's what I am able to reproduce.

If I set my key to tab (it could be anything, but it just needs to be something that can be hit really quick), I am able to hit tab, and during the period that the focus is trying to switch to the other window, I can watch keys take effect in both windows. However, watching with both screens visible, I am NOT able to produce duplicate movement and such after that initial effect, though the key does act pressed in the other session.

This means if I hit tab and press left immediately, the old session continually turns left but the newly focused session does not.

Does this describe the issue you are experiencing, or can you truly produce duplicate movement continually?

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:00 pm

Yes the movement will continue to move both characters. I have a hard time duplicating it myself, it happens every time I play, but when it happens is completely random. I tried logging in two characters to see if I could duplicate it and I couldn't do it at will.
I know exactly what you are talking about having one character continue on in one direction, but this is me controlling both characters, back forward, side to side, heck sometimes I have even fired off the same hot key on both, firing off a heal and kicking or whatever with the other character. This is happening quite alot, but it doesnt necessarily happen right away by any means. When it does happen though it can be dangerous as I mentioned earlier. The only way to stop it once it happens is to switch to the other character using (in my case) the Tab key again. Obviously though on a dual monitor system I am not always looking directly at both monitors, and having the second monitor on 1 fps makes it so I rarely noticed its happening until its too late.
I had been playing this way for a long time, I even run 3 accounts at times and often switch quickly between them but only recently has this behavior shown up.

I dont know if it helps at all but I usually dont see this behavior at all for quite a while, I would say I was on for about 30 minutes or so before it happened today. Yesterday it happened after maybe 1.5 hours in a DoN. It does happen every single day though.

Post by **Lax** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 9:04 pm

Yeah, I know when it would have shown up, but I just need to figure out how to stop it from happening

I'll for now assume that if I can get it to stop happening for that split second, then hopefully it will stop entirely. I'll be working on that first, and we'll see from there

Post by **Lax** » Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:26 am

Ok. Please restart WinEQ 2, let it patch with today's patch, and let me know if you experience the problem at any point after that.

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Sun Sep 11, 2005 2:59 am

Just played for about 3-4 hours straight, usually in a time like that I would have seen this happen at least a few times and all seems well now

Thanks for the speedy response and fix

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:07 pm

Well, problem seems to be back. Was ok for a few days, then I had one instance of it, and I thought maybe it was just a fluke. Then another, now its been 6 different times that it has happened and I know the game was patched just before it started happening again so I thought I should post again as its getting really annoying having my shaman run into the middle of my camps.

trumpslogra · Post by **trumpslogra** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:32 pm

I think I have finally caught what is happening this time, and can duplicate it. This time I am definately running in a straight line forward and I think it has to do with when the mouse makes you run by holding down right click first then holding down left click (makes you autorun). When I switch the task quickly immediately holding down right click to make a quick turn my other character starts to run off. Hope this helps.

Post by **Lax** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:43 pm

Ah, good info, and makes perfect sense to me that this in particular might still be broken. I'll get this fixed as soon as I can